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July 27, 2009

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Jon

I read through your thoughts on pastoral ministry. Would you be willing to consider the following? Why would the Bible use shephard language to describe pastors in the New Testament? Do shepherds leave their sheep? Why would Paul find it important to have Titus appoint elders in every town if they were not necessary? How would you explain Hebrews 13:17? 1 Tim 3:1 refers to the overseer role as an "office," how do you reconcile this with your view? Have you considered that the NT categorizes pastoral ministry as being exercised through a plurality of elders?

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Jon-

Great thoughts and questions. First, I must point out that these are not my original thoughts, they are straight from the best-selling book called Pagan Christianity?: exploring the roots of our church practices, by Frank Viola and George Barna. I just tend to have an uncanny ability at summarizing material. With that said, I will do my best to answer your questions with what I believe to be the truth from what I’ve learned.

Why would the Bible use shephard language to describe pastors in the New Testament?

The Bible uses shepherd language because that is a great verb to describe the function of what pastors do.

Do shepherds leave their sheep?

Pastors didn’t leave in the New Testament, apostles did.

Why would Paul find it important to have Titus appoint elders in every town if they were not necessary?

I’m not seeing where it was ever presented that elders were not necessary or beneficial.

How would you explain Hebrews 13:17?

If you look at the Bible through worldly system lenses, you’ll see leaders as positions, titles, and offices. When you filter the Bible through an organic system lense (which the book argues that you should), leadership is a verb or a function. The book never argues that there shouldn’t be leadership or that you shouldn’t submit to it, but points out how leadership develops and functions in a living system environment, which the church is supposed to operate like since it’s a living organism and not a worldly institution.

1 Tim 3:1 refers to the overseer role as an "office," how do you reconcile this with your view?

I would have to disagree. I’m not seeing where the role of an overseer is ever referred to as an office.

Hope this helps understand the concepts a little better.

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